Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If you are still struggling to deal with flanking units, recruit another lord and fill their stack with skavenslave spears, maybe a couple slingers. Cookie Notice If you want to cast plague magic you have plague priests and they're just as good at it. Edit: regarding the Doomwheel(s): do not just send them into the enemy backline and let them get caught up in meele with a single unit. They have excellent range and armor-piercing damage. for generic armies i like a plauge priest as the lord then a plauge priest for extra summons. I recently started a legendary Ikit claw campaign and I am having a hard time deciding on the best 20 Stack to face different threats. Ruh roh #? Considered the best archer unit in the entire game, Sisters of Averlorn are a menace of a doomstack, especially under a lord who can buff them. They are dirt cheap and can make excellent meat shields. Ratling Guns, Warplock Jezzails, Plagueclaw Catapults, and Warp Lightning Cannons are your best options. Crazy high charge bonuses and base damages makes a charge from this unit quite devastating. My army composition wasnt bad but I dont have a lot of room to mess around given the threat. Deathglobes should be somewhere in there, but they need something to tie up enemies. Keep your plague heroes ready to summon rats as a way to halt their army. 3 Plagueclaw Catapults. Each hero with the trait will reduce enemy leadership in the region by 5, and this stacks. rights reserved. Maybe a hellpit or 2 to get enemies to clump on in case something actually survives all the warp-bullets and warp-lightning cannon shots. I want to open this thread to be able to make a compilation of the perfect doomstack for each army in campaign on legendary/very hard difficulty. You use Ikit and Plague priest summons+menace from below to lock down your enemies while everything else just completly obliterates everything on fire at will. The AI will often get confused and inefficiently manage their formation, giving your Shades more time to whittle down their army. Valve Corporation. Quick Note - NEVER sack a Tier 5 settlement, always occupy. Not a huge fan of the rattlestacks myself. Heh, I actually JUST posted my skaven doom stack in a different thread here. I primarily play Total War, but not every game in the franchise. D. Deathmaster Snikch; L. Lord Skrolk; Q. Queek Headtaker; T. Throt the Unclean; Tretch Craventail; Categories Categories: . When you can afford another doomstack, you'll have a high level general all ready to go to lead them. Hammer of the Witches 4x Demigryph halberds Also playing mortal empires, is it better to use Ikit Claw as a doom flayer is khaine sword instead of his quest weapon from daemon? Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Front line is your doomwheels/flayers/HPAs/lord intercepting enemies, making it easy to fire in with artillery and gun units. slaves, doomwheels, doomflayers and weapon teams of your choice. Dwarves don't have summons and the Skaven Clanrats summon could cause you a defeat if they are able to stick around. trade marks of The Creative Assembly Limited. I would cut all the stormvermin and replace with rattling guns, plage priest and a few death bikes, cut 2 jezzails as well, 2 are enough to snipe vip targets as overall rattling guns do way more damge + slow cc. Throw in a couple warpgrinders too. They are not really having a Doomstack. Workshop, The Game of Fantasy Battles, the twin-tailed comet logo, and all associated By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Along with all the buffs, they become insane artillery units who can also hold their own in melee. You dont want to waste ammunition shooting their trash units. A row of plague based infantry and skrolk leading the charge for a row of mortars and catapults. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Skaven infantry becomes completely obsolete when your jezzails have 500 range, 250 damage, and 60 ammo. How good are the "death globe bombadiers?" Edit: herowraith is absolutely correct, also get a plague priest. My content is broken up into . i dont realy play the other factions alot so cant say on them. This particular variant has a built-in anti-large bonus, but less defensive prowess. 2 talking about this. and our In total we raised $32,000 for Johns Hopkins. Every late-game Beastmen army should be full of Minotaurs, and the Great Weapons variant is the best by far. Press J to jump to the feed. Is ratling gun spam still good or are they less useful these days? If you're an existing user, your forum details will be merged with Total War Access if you register with the same email or username. Ranged and monster spam with plenty buffs stacked on top. Still, with the relevant lord buffs, they become amazing and can run over multiple armies per battle. Almost every VC army is a stack of skeletons, backed up by a vampire lord to cast death spells and rack up thousands of kills. The enemy will blob on them, making for easy targets. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The buffs stack. If you play Skryre it's even more obvious because you get a ton of extra buffs for "characters on doomwheels/doomflayers" including wom buffs.Plagueclaws are generally worse than PVM if you can spread out their fire, more so with Skryre where you get extra PVM buffs. So unless youre finishing off a long, tedious campaign, give yourself at least a slight challenge! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This with a plague priest for summons. Hey guys, all moneys are tallied. And the win screen, so you can see the stack I set up for the lizardmen. Built-in missile resistance, large entity size and absurd melee stats. LegendofTotalWar 863K views 1 year ago Units You Should Always Recruit For Every Race - Warhammer 2 LegendofTotalWar 1.2M views 2 years ago Luthor Harkon IS THE DOOMSTACK LegendofTotalWar. Kaaz Apr 5, 2020 @ 2:27am. You can do that by setting them up in a line and once they are engaged with the enemy make them swing around backwards. My standard doomstack for clan skryre is something like this: slaves, doomwheels, doomflayers and weapon teams of your choice. Settra on exalted chariot19 Skeleton archer chariotsSurtha Ek quivers before me. Discussions, strategies, stories, crude cave-drawings, and more for Medieval 2, Empire, Shogun 2, Rome 2, Attila, Thrones of Britannia, Warhammer, Three Kingdoms and others. Edit VisualEditor History Talk (0) Pages in category "Skaven legendary lords" The following 5 pages are in this category, out of 5 total. 4 Ratling Guns. Use ambush and lightning strike to fight armies one at a time so you aren't overwhelmed and don't run out of ammo during a battle. I don't know where skaven stand doomstack wise. Categories Entertainment, Gaming, Total War WARHAMMER, Copyright 2023 QTopTens | Trellis Framework by Mediavine. All Skaven Great Clan Contracts The Eshin are the knives and blades in the dark, and they're regularly employed by the other Great Clans of the Skaven. A subreddit for fans and community of the Total War strategy game master LegendofTotalWar, Press J to jump to the feed. Cookie Notice @Sumdaga - I played the Vortex campaign only so far, and during that, I found that I was able to purchase all the runes available that I wanted very quickly, and did not have enough to equip everyone how I wanted. . If youre tired of such a play-style, Varghulfs will be your go-to doomstack. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Necrosphinxes are great but struggle to get through masses of infantry, can often get stuck in an anti-large unit. 1 Priest. If you're an existing user, your forum details will be merged with Total War Access if you register with the same email or username. There is room for mortars and death globes too, depending on your play-style and which faction youre facing. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Empire: Steam Tanks Few armies will empty your coffers like 19 Steam Tanks, but they're one of the most fun doomstacks you can play in Warhammer 2. The exception here is Luminarks but again, just focus them down and they wont be a problem. Best Skaven DoomStack (Clan Skyre) I recently started a legendary Ikit claw campaign and I am having a hard time deciding on the best 20 Stack to face different threats. so something other than slaves is money wasting. Tomb Kings dont have a doomstack option to be honest, as the number of constructs they can recruit is limited to how many of their respective buildings you have. Press J to jump to the feed. The number of runes that can be given to lords and heroes, unfortunately, does not increase. logos, illustrations, images, names, creatures, races, vehicles, locations, weapons, Plague Priests are used for summoning additional rat units to help keep the enemy at bay. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/ogovwz/all_of_the_new_dwarf_character_and_banner_runes/, https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/po283y/some_people_found_the_me_artifact_map_for_thorek/, https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/pntas3/i_made_a_quick_reference_guide_for_all_artifact/, https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwarhammer/comments/or54dr/thorek_ironbrow_mortal_empires_guide/, https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/os2x4a/thanes_granting_snipe_to_rangers_is_hilarious/. Thanks for the Skaven suggestions so far, they are very useful! Lord (Ikkit or a Warlock Engineer on Doomwheel are your best options), 1-2x Plague Priests (mainly for emergency summons, though all their spells are incredibly good). Thanks for the Skaven suggestions so far, they are very useful!Any ideas for other factions? Yeah rattlings are too good to pass on, also have you considered rat ogres to protect flanks (mobile with anti large and armor pierce), 1 Ikit. I'm trying to make up an excel to with all of the runes and legendary lord stats and weapon buffs to figure out what is best. r/LegendofTotalWar: A subreddit for fans and community of the Total War strategy game master LegendofTotalWar Press J to jump to the feed. Privacy Policy. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I love the dwarves and have probably played ten ME campaigns. The units engaged in combat with them will follow them and stay in meele. I think it was like a max of 3 runes per type for normals, and like max 1 Rune for a certain powerful type? One of the best ranged units in the game, Waywatchers hit hard from range and can move whilst hidden. While they are protecting your flanks, your primary army obliterates their main force, and then you just turn to deal with whatever is left on the flanks when you're done with them. Super proud of everyone that showed up to support the livestream and you once again destroyed my expectations with you staunch line of support. probably just a bunch of skirmishers/skirmish cav if you were trying to win a field battle bloodlessly and feel decent about doing it without wasting a ton of money, As a Skaven boi this army comes to mind as one of the most wacky ones to field, my doom stack HE tyrion (sword of khaine not necessary but a nice add on). I think Lizardmen is an easy (and boring) one:Second generation Slann with Lore of Life19 Stegadons (some of these can be Skink Priests for traits and more winds of magic), Wood Elves:Treeman Ancient Lord1 Spellsinger (life)1 Branch wraith1 Glade Captain16 Treemen. In my walkthrough I recommend getting Gotrek & Felix, which is a good idea even if you only get them for the 30 turns you are supposed to have them for, but there is a way to get them permanently! rights reserved. I should I just take over the "Main settlements like naggrand and Lothern"? [If their army is about to hit have these boys run up and lock them down so you have extra time to summon more rats/gun down units]. My end game build for Skaven is generally. 3-Plague Priests? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It is not their job to reak in a lot of kills, their job is to make sure the enemy doesn't get any kills. For me it would mean AR , for others it would mean how big they e-peen is etc . Legend of Total War here. Im gonna get another jezzail and get some doomwheels/hell pit abomination as tarpits when I can. That extra ammunition and better rate of fire will save your ass. Stormvermin make decent infantry, and if you just absolutely don't want decent infantry in a doomstack, at least grab a few hellpit abominations to tie up the enemy. While the enemy is approaching, use 5-6 Colossus to burst down individual units, the ones that are most likely to be a threat. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. characters, and the distinctive likeness thereof, are either or , and/or Games Yes, skavenslaves. Its the cheesiest of all cheeses, though. Assembly logo, Total War and the Total War logo are either registered trade marks or Also, first time playing a skaven and ME campaign. Plus, this second stack lets you level up a second warlock engineer! poisoned-wind mortar & warpfirethrower teams do tons of friendly fire, flayers and wheels do better job surviving the killzone than any infantry. All shades also have the Vanguard Deployment trait, as well as stalk. How do I use and level up Warlocks? Some buffed up ranged units, preferably with chevrons, will decimate incoming enemy forces. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If you're a fan of my youtube videos, then this is the place to find out w I never went full star dragons, for example. 3 Jezzarails. Last edited by Kaaz ; Apr 5, 2020 @ 2:29am. Vampire Counts are all about lords and heroes. Personally I think it is probably the best weapon team doomstack for Skaven (where you might sometimes switchout some plagueclaws for Warp lightning canons depending on the enemy you are up against and the terrain you will be fighting in) To compare it in terms of effectiveness to your stack -3 extra mortors is way way way overkill. Sporting 18-19 of the same unit, with a lord to buff them, makes doomstacks extremely potent. Turn on Closed Captions on all other videos. Then send them into melee. Any feedback or edits of this guide would be lovely. Khemrian Warsphinxes simply have great stats and incredible animations that allow them to maneuver through infantry easily. Hey, man! They're very powerful once you have all of the artifacts as Thorek. Mortars pepper to death on the incoming and skrolk/infantry intercepts and finishs off with surrounds and magic. How long distance can I travel via tunnels across the map via undercities? The AI cannot resist a general out in the open, even if it's a murder machine like ikkit on a doomwheel: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1997529672, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1997532881, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1997529424, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1997528798. I'd do at least 2 Poison Wind Mortars. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. For more information, please see our @MinMaxRex thank you for you replies! Sep 1, 2020. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Its best to massacre the rest of the army until army losses kick in, and they rout. You can literally build a pure ranged army and just devastate enemy armies from artillery range. Copyright Games Workshop Limited 2015. Remember to keep your food supplies high and skaven corruption boosted in order to get more rat spawns. Turn off Closed Captions on this video. [counters random calvary] 1 Warpstone grinder. Sounds fun, though. Mid-tier Dwarf units are still leagues above most other mid-tier units so fielding several armies is recommended, rather than aiming to get a few uber-stacks! This can take on 2 full stacks with literally 0 losses if played well, you stall with summons and with the doomwheels if you really need them, I usually just use them to destory some annoying fast units and to run down units. At the start of a battle, you can engage the enemy before they even know where your troops are. Low leadership means they do tend to start to crumble quite easily, so make sure youre summoning zombies to back them up against anti-large units, and have your lord nearby too. Surprisingly good melee stats allow them to chew through low-tier infantry without breaking a sweat. They cause terror, significantly reducing the leadership stat of enemy units who are unfortunate enough to be stuck in combat with them. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Total War: WARHAMMER II. Yvresse can easily doomstack with melee units cause of 85% factionwide physical resist you can get from vamp + bret interrogation (astral + blessing of the lady). As a Skaven boi this army comes to mind as one of the most wacky ones to fieldSkrolk for summons + spell dmg6* Warlock engineer (For crazy artillery dmg/range/ammo boost)8* Plague Claw Catapult2* Warp Lightning Cannon3* Random melee unit(i prefer Storm Vermin /w halberds)On some maps you can just set up your lines start the battle and go make a cup of tea, when you return some minutes later you are looking at the victory screen, my doom stack HE tyrion (sword of khaine not necessary but a nice add on) mage of you choice 6 sisters of avelorn 2 dragon pinces and the rest lothern sea guard with shields stuff melts when fired at by sisters and lothern sea guard with shields before they even reach you. Legend of Total War Here - Closed Captions 348,247 views 3 years ago LoL. Smells like cheese over hereMy doom stacks are usually balanced mixes of infantry, a couple of monster infantry units, cavalry, and a couple of monsters/artillery, all of them of the highest possoble tier.I never went full star dragons, for example. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. What's the advantage of the 2x warpfire throwers versus just adding another 2x to the ratling guns? This is what I came up with: Ditch the stormvermin get a couple more rattling gunners and the rest doomwheels. In my own thought process, the assignment of runes seems somewhat situational and dependent on the Lord himself. Arachnorak Spiders are some of the coolest units in the game, capable of decimating infantry and large units alike. Also, I'm trying to figure out once all of the Dwarven LLs are confederated what the optimal runes to give to each of them once you have access to all of them in the forge. You kill the enemy lord and wipe out most of the army BUT making sure to leaving a couple of remaining units (ideally melee infantry) with enough units not to be wiped out. trade marks of The Creative Assembly Limited. For more information please read our FAQs here. Check Legend of totalwar on YouTube, he is currently doing a legendary skaven campaign and is using this strategy. True LM doomstack is hero spam because you can hire lvl 40 heroes with enough star chambers, but you can only get skink chiefs from minor settlements. Also how does a stack like this one hold up against multiple armies? Wayyy too many halberds, not nearly enough guns. What would their skill tree look like? Also maybe cut all or 2 plague claw catapults for an extra death bike and an extra poison wind mortar. Each War Mammoth has over 13,000 health, and since the AI doesnt know how to properly focus-fire down single entities, they survive for a long time. 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