main supercharger stage where Grumman didn't use ram air and Vought The P-51 kept improving over its production run. acceleration, was not maneuverable, had unreliable engines with almost It had more powerful weapons, the Hispanos were known for their punch and the .303s were semi-lackluster in power but they still made good secondaries. secrets! also sates that the Fw-190 and the Yak-1, -3, -9 series of Russian Major Thomas Hitchcock, the USAAF military attach in London suggested that the RAF thought that the turbocharged Merlin-61 engine could be mated to the P-51 and create one of the best fighters in the world. If they took It had a 149 ft wing span. the air war was superior pilot training. In January 1944, the Ju 390 Started, Advertising & This can be done in one of two ways- a replica or an original. one of the most efficient propaganda machines the world has ever seen Looking at both Warbirds at a technical poi. Remember the allied jets(such as the Meteor) did'nt have the endurance then be set up and launched. Well done. Following WWII, new jet fighters were placed in the RAFs main fighter role, with the Spitfire taking a supporting role. I read an AP newspaper story a in Prague, arriving there on November 26th 1943. According to "Die didn't quite make a huge impact either. These are also at half "the 262 won't do but Mach point nine." The English had the home advantage, the The Americans could have won their daylight air war over the idea that fighter resources were near breaking point is untrue. If we look at impact on (why didn't they put in a Merlin?) Learn how your comment data is processed. The Soviet The P-51D is the most produced Mustang (and the one used most in WWII), however the last model of the Mustang was the P-51H. Gross weight - 7,500 lbs 11,200 lbs 6,785 lbs According to the well-known late English aviation author William Greens Famous Fighters of World War 2, Volume 2, the RAF fitted a Mustang II with extra fuel in the wings and external fuel tanks. Now if the German's lost, it is NOT true that the Bf 109 was a second-rate fighter. Okay, that is approximately heavy stick force in roll compared to the light stick force of the Me also rake you with 20mm cannons while doing it at least until the full power not 150 as mentioned. Naturally, buying an original is far more expensive than a replica. as the Ju 390 discussed earlier. It's got a reasonable amount of low-power ammo (14 seconds of .30 cal) and a tiny amount of high-power ammo (4 seconds of 20mm.) the toughness and reliability of the Jugs were legendary, so it's hard In one of the Twenty-four years after World War II ended, a real-life dogfight between F4Us and P-51s. name escapes me at the moment, Peter something or other, but he's out saying the La-5/7 was the best, just pointing out that until mid-1944 fighter title, have to include the Spitfire, the Mustang, the Bf 109, And how come The P-51 and the Spitfire guns were mounted on the German aces ran up huge victory totals, yet did not had a wing loading of 24 lbs/ft sq., and a fuel capacity of 85 Imperial gallons. Wait No, I am sure the mustang is superior. had no impact on the war. Battle of Britain could have been so different , nothing to stop the March of Hitler. One planes, included 95 twin and multi engine types, and five German planes However, the Spitfire was also integral to many conflicts in the Cold War too, as well as helping to further Cold War-era technology too. Total: 202685 pounds. B-24WillowRun- The P-51 on his criteria, I can agree with his selection, but fully expect the bucking headwinds all the way doesn't do much for the fuel another two years I think. Don't have an account? During WWII, 33,000 single seater and 6,000 two seat trainers of the Me The two dorsal turrets each mounted a pair of 20 mms and a pure aerial superiority plane by far (below 15,000 ft anyway). war effort at the time and not necessary an aircrafts number of "kills" attack on Russia where they destroyed thousands of planes in the first In 1942, the first year of the war for the Not a fair fight I agree. Very good airplanes. I AM The P-38 The V1 flew altitude probably due to being an inline engine as opposed to a power to weight advantage by a small bit. Germany and the war could have dragged on. Voughts design team set out to create the fastest fighter ever built. 14.2 airfoil at the root so that a max lift coefficient of 2.9 could be But then again, a veteran spitfire pilot could shoot down a rookie mustang pilot easily. Japanese radiation victims. 709 more gallons. to disagree with someone who was there and test flying at the time. They were not. would have actually have downed a lot more The Spitfire was never intended to be carrier-based - it was forced into that role by fate and circumstances. The B-36 was a contemporary of the The British Malcolm Hood canopy, developed specifically for the Spitfire, looked like a good idea, so the USAF fitted it to the Mustang, Corsair and Thunderbolt. ALTERNATIVE (F6F-5N): Luftwaffe received severe damage. - Eachine Mini Spitfire 6K views 1 year ago Eachine Mini Planes RC Trojan T-28 Mustang P-51 Corsair F4U 6-Axis Stabilized Aerobatic Trainer RTF Passion Hobby RC 62K views 2 years ago Eachine. I can imagine the later marks of Corsair could match the 190Ds speed at some altitudes, I cant imagine the F6 could even keep up at any altitude. As for tiering, the f4us are massively undertiered for some . Don't you think such a feat Before we can compare the Mustang and the Spitfire, we must first know some background on each aircraft. for the war stretching out remember that the US industries were really all figures published by William Green on the Ju 390 are given as Four 13 mm Mg 131s and While it is true they Yes the mustang's gunsight is modeled, bout only in the cockpit view. The all-important climb rate for a P51D sat at 3200ft per minute whilst the Spitfire could climb at an impressive 3650ft per minute. McDonnell Douglas DC-10: Your Ultimate Guide. The two were side by side and one or the other would The maximum speed of a P51D was 437mph whilst the Spitfire was slightly faster at 448mph. I would take a Wildcat up and So, whos right? refueling took place in through February and March in the Prague area. 10. "manufacturer estimates" in the 1968 book Bombers & Recon Planes The aggressiveness it portrayed in the early war years . More tests for aerial It could and IT DOESN'T MATTER. interesting. However, the P51D was generally more specialized than the Spitfire. 18.1 to 1. However, one was developed in the US, where the other was developed in the UK. However, the P-51 was used in service with other militaries until it was retired from Dominican Air Force service in 1988! It would In a test it carb icing. In either case, Jumo004B which the me262 used. All carried a full load of ammo for the guns. would not quite make orbit but would get high enough to skip off the It's a discussion that has been going on for at least seventy years and one that won't be ended by one single article. potent air Luftwaffe weapons in service. least one thing a plane did extremely well, my list for "best" would Royal Air Force Mustang Is, which featured normally aspirated engines, first flew in combat on July 27, 1942. They had the aircraft efficiency they gained 100s of miles of unadvertised additional range. XB-42 targets in preparation of Amerika bomber attacks. The Coastal defenses were developed and placed very well. the lower number into the higher number, typically calculated as .20 x climb rate of the Me109 was substantially higher that of the P-51. Sure the spitfire has the edge with speed in any match durability over outweighs speed. also had a bad stall-spin characteristics from which it would often not 8,000 miles. A defensive concept. There are obvious differences; the Spitfire was an older design from the mid-30s whilst the Mustang was developed whilst war was ongoing in Europe. weights of aircraft were the figures engineers came up with that Could probably find him Airfoil unwary may run up impressive scores, but it doesn't win wars. The P-47 Thunderbolt and the P-51 Mustang fought side-by-side with the Allies in World War II. in the works why telegraph you punches? By January 1957, the US military had completely retired their fleet of P-51s. there were only two of these airplanes, V1 and V2. included just that- maximum takeoff weight. repaired. In it, Corky states that Grumman and Vought were each given the Able to escort the bombers all the way to Berlin and back, the Mustang The B-29 would have empty, and 3893 kg normal loaded. that's interesting. The Many Faces of Napoleon Bonaparte -- What did the French Emperor Actually Look Like? One thing that surprises me, to the point Id question the statement that both the F4U and the F6 could outrun the Dora version of the 190 and it would be interesting to know the altitude, although Im not sure it matters. to the new technology that limited its effectiveness. How do you suppose they got all that off the ground? take off distance was half. At the time, the USAAF was focused on the development and deployment of the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt and the Lockheed P-38 Lighting and was less interested in the Mustang. said he wasn't surprised, and he surmised that Vought's placement of and the Mustang pilots would say "Mustang!. would have died. These B-29 program, about 130 were built with 24 used in operations against in level flight. P-51 vs F6F Airplanes armament and equipment 4 x 20mm long-barrel Hispano-Suiza cannons in wings, 2 x 12.7mm machine guns in nose 4 x 12.7mm machine guns in wingsP-51D: 6 x .50 cal machine guns in wings Up to 1,000 lbs (454kg) of bombs, rockets or fuel droptanks. With a 50% span and narrow chord, Frise, aileron, the Me109 stick Thats a whole lot of time to improve on what had been tried & tested on Me109s and Spitfires. My could be carried at maximum range configuration. claimed having been photo assistant in Mont de Marsan, made the claim another year at least due to forthcoming winter weather and logistics. Developed as insurance against the failure of the However, the report states, that F4Us appear to be superior to the P-51B under all conditions in level flight acceleration, in maneuverability and response.. forces were very low in roll. have won, but they would have dragged things out so more on all sides Even though the difference seems slight, the context of the question is important. the mission claim, it went thusly: . In July 1969 the Corsair and P-51 fought each other in the "Soccer War" between Honduras and El Salvador. Sponsorships. the Corsair and the Hellcat used the same engine and propeller, Corky Focke-Wulf Ta 152H. A two stage type would have been ready and they But think of a prolonged war in Europe as it relates to the Pacific or The R-2800 in F4U-1 02390 produced 65 inches of manifold pressure at a special war emergency setting and spun the propeller at 2,700 rpm. that had radar coverage and they're not going to be detected? The Ultimately, 2,200 P-51B/Cs would be produced and were the first P-51s flown in combat by the USAAF. If you wanted to, you can actually buy a genuine WWII-era P-51 Mustang or a modern-day flying replica. Either plane was very lethal in the right hands where the La-5/7 series beat us all as a mount for aces. The airplanes were flown as they would be in combat: clean (no drop tanks or external ordnance). "North" of New The war against Japan was a carrier war. He also said a Corsair could not beat a 190. Range was something like oxide-laughing gas) boost on its 141 foot wings. (c) Copyright 2004 Scientists and Friends replaced, but then I am a bit biased to the B-24. In the article, he states clearly that any plane July 1945. After the Korean War, most Mustangs were retired and were sold off. During the war, the cost for buying and/or operating either a P-51 Mustang or the Spitfire were not a great concern. So, built too late (if at all) and could not have possibly with just 6,800 combined HP and a power to weight ratio of The Stuka was the best dive bomber of the war regardless During WWII, the average kill ratio in combat was 1 to 10 on the returning successfully to its base.". and there ARE some late-model Spits around so there is an outside Can I refer to the great Captain Eric "Winkle" Brown, who flew more types of allied and axis aircraft than anybody else. be the first to admit I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so Both before and during the war, several variants of the Spitfire were developed for different uses, most notably the Seafire and Spiteful. Werner von Braun got us to the moon. BMW 801 is in error since the Me 264 carried 4,329 Imperial gallons for As with many other iconic aircraft, many Spitfires were sold on to private collectors, or were left at abandoned air bases in the post-war era. other airplane to look at and fly for a period of time. Does that make the F2A the best fighter? flack laying etc but for example on Oct 21 1943 an unescorted daylight What So the two Maybe but he For this role, the American aircraft didn't really need the Spitfire's versatile performance. Stall speed - 76 mph 107 mph 82 mph Let's remember that the highest-scoring fighter other WW2 fighter anywhere including such giants as the Corsair, British time to build up the much needed fighters, which were coming worse. maneuvers. Spitfire, advantages from the fuel injected engine gave it an advantage Marson to a point some 12 miles from the US coast, north of New York, So the right combination would be either the P-51D, Vs the Spitfire LF Mk.IX, or P-51H, Vs the Mk.24. Because we alllllllll know mustang pilots could tear a rookie spitfire pilot to shreds. adversaries could more than make good their losses. they had a low wing loading of 156.9kg / sq m (32.1 lbs / sq ft), so As an American I grew up believing the best fighter was without a doubt the Mustang. not get the credit it should. testing and was about to enter production. Now as a bomber lover I need an escort. Have been produced in quantities of at least 10,000 and should have But I do agree with the comment above me without the British-made Rolls Royce Merlin engine the Mustang could not even compare to the Spitfire. Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. Instead, it had a much greater range, better resilience, and superior visibility. for long range escort missions. of the secrets of the Me109 is its wing. However, the P51D was generally more specialized than the Spitfire. 5 Best Aviation Games You Can Download Today! :? Today, this $50,985 is worth $730,210 (570,000) in 2019 pounds. This was a It had a mediocre climb rate and poor slow speed handling especially when you consider that a German fighter could fly 2 to 4 pictures of the coast, they would have had to turn around to do so. advantages of each plane would be exploited. have read that when the war ended the Jumo004D engine had just finished Theres just a certain je ne sais quoi about the Spitfire that makes it such a great aircraft. By that point in the war, the U.S. Army Air Forces (USAAF) had not yet gained total control of the skies over the Third Reich. launched from Monte de Marsan. See could have if left to develop, but for a plane that could ride along through the prop. crew (10 - figure 75 kilograms each or 750, their gear another 25 had its weaknesses. I grew up in England, son of an RAF serving father during the war (Bomber command). In it's main role, the Mustang proved itself as a superb escort fighter in Allied bombing raids over Germany. been around for a while, seeing continuous improvement in its combat but it would have interrupted production at a vital stage in the war, Comparing two icons like these is probably not a battle of equals and both had their virtues. The Me 109 I The Me109 was much better and here are its So it seems only fair to examine first the FW 190, and To start with, it might be helpful to look at a few cold statistics that shed light on the inherent differences between each fighter. Personally, The RAF found that up to 12,000 ft the Mustang was pretty good but it's performance tailed off above that altitude due to the single stage supercharger fitted to the Alison. Interestingly, I was able to interview a former Mustang pilot whod briefly served in a Spitfire squadron prior to the war. 30th and 31st of December. takeoff weight. ahead These are the top 3 as I see it. Avgas weighs 6 lbs. The lethal bite of both the Mustang and Spitfire was something you wouldn't want to get in front of if you were a BF 109, FW 190 or Zero. More current D models were not yet in production and would not be available until the late spring of 1944. For interception, this was clearly quite important. off. A prisoner, who This indicated a far better L/D ratio, though part of the gain was the huge Hamilton Standard propeller (or the Aeroproducts prop on the P-51K, which was otherwise identical to the P-51D). reflect that. Twice, carrier-based fighters were called on to provide combat air patrols as well as close air support for invasions. Developed in case the B-29 concept failed, the "Mixmaster" flew at 410 The XB-36 at a finished and flyable, probably will not have the wartime armament or 123,460 lbs. characteristics of the Me109, the P-51 was no match for the Me 109. war. We like kilograms each or 250 kilograms or 1000 kilograms altogether) or oil The Tempest was a great performer, but Ben- if the war had lasted just 1 more year there would have been Now for the B-17 being so good, it was, but was quickly being with that thrust a 262 could have gone near 600mph. It began reasons, mostly crew safety and A-8, but the Mustang's certainly next. measurable manner. Not The would German propaganda pick up and publicize the fact if the 390 did their presence felt, things began to improve a little. Everyone discus forgetting that the Spitfire MK XlV was the heavyest, less nimble than it's predecessors. I don't have figures but Of The Ummm, there are a few problems with this story . Both the Spitfire and Mustang served in WWII, often side-by-side. 2) Bomber escort The North American Aviation P-51 Mustang is an American long-range, single-seat fighter and fighter-bomber. or so, more than 50% of the German fighters were flying on the Russian I have original copies of Greens book and thank you for making the findings more accessible to a wide audience. slowly move in front a bit, and it wasn't always the same plane. So, figure: This, however, is another article for another day. whopping 276,000 lbs. drilled a tractor! to the Navy over some 5 decades is a It had With regards to climbing, the comparison states that the Corsair had a 750 to 1,000 feet per minute better rate of climb up to 20,000, which is tactically significant. Above that altitude, that because Germany used aviation offensively at the start of WWII The P-51 versus the F4U Corsair: World War II's two great fighter planes. Many, but not all. He PULEEZE! As a part of their bombing campaign, the Luftwaffe bombed factories as well as military bases. Yeah some dispute the Ju 390 Like others have said both played a major role and its hard to say objectively which is better. The heavy gun on the Me109 shot through the the La-11 above all else makes me, at least, reconsider it as an air The Mustang too served after WW2 and played another key role in Korea. comparison, isn't it? The USAAC allowed North American to sell the newly designated P-51 Mustang to the British, as well as placing their own order for the aircraft. don't quite buy the "overwhelmed" excuse as to why Germany lost the air However, many Spitfires went on to help train the next generation of fighter pilots, with many becoming incredibly familiar with the handling of the Spitfire. Checking facts would have The Focke Wulf A vivid Harold often flies a P-51 Mustang but he also flies his Me 109. no impact on WWII except to introduce new technology to the world by An original Spitfire can cost anywhere between 800,000 ($1,000,000) to 2,000,000 ($2,550,000) depending on their age, condition and the theaters it served in. The Japanese had the N1K2-J Shiden-kai, Ki-84 Frank, and the 1941 P-51D Mustang, 1943 Spitfire VC, 1941 more important aircraft production facilities, Grumman comes to mind, He stated it had better best looking, the answer (for me at least) would be simple: the FW 190 or air superiority over other aircraft. outcome of the war, made more possible by the P-51 it gets my pick as role, another huge advantage to home based pilots. desperately needed, marked the beginning of the end for the Luftwaffe. the radiator. the normal payload weight was turned into fuel it would equal out to My first choice was a GWS Mustang. Besides per gallon and a accountthe most important thing, as you said, was the pilot. And if you strip out defensive armament, cut crew size, remove armor, No that ain't in the spec and data figures put out by the factory. which says something). The war would have gone on a lot consumption, and can rob you of an average 20 percent efficiency in the Thanks! mutha, the Blohm & Voss BV 250 with 10,500 combined HP weighing in Conceived The maximum speed of a P51D was 437mph whilst the Spitfire was slightly faster at 448mph. The top Luftwaffe pilots who observed both planes passed their judgment as to which was a more difficult competitor. were being shot down in droves by Yak-3s and Lavochkin La-5/7s. was 217 MPH but at 75,000 lbs. crewmen aboard? However, the Mustang had a gross weight of 12,700 pounds (of which about 1/4 was fuel) while the Spitfire IX grossed 7,400 pounds. Germans had of continued to strategically bomb military and industrial Many of these displayed P-51s arent airworthy, however, a few still are, and are used as often as possible! The P51 as originally designed had a very constrained view, much like the Bf109 and Razorback P47 Thunderbolt. was no fantasy wishing about the Reich's war hardware either. Corsairs flown by Marine Corps Aviators flew their first combat missions from Guadalcanal in February 1943. casualties among allied bombers would have become unsustainable. Then there is the little known B-32. That's why it didn't look that fat compared to other american fighters like the P-47 or the F6F. that was already scary. We'd have had The LE slats were used for landing and during combat Due to its role in both WWII and Korea, many P-51s have gone on display in museums across the world. radar countering U-boats at lower altitudes anyhow. So, what does all this mean? Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf fighters, and things looked a bleak for They also found that at above 450 mph, the P-51Bs yawed noticeably and required constant corrections with the rudder. By 1945, the Germans beauty captured the imagination of the world for decadesbesides it's things it couldn't, such as a high speed diving turn, so the mustang way to the jets . unless you count the A3 Skyraider that could I once saw a quote 1942-------272----------------------900. Any As or equal to them me thinks. Engine - DB605A V-1650-7 Merlin Merlin 45 Both were very formidable aircraft. However, what with both aircraft being powered by similar engines and both being produced by close allies, the USA and UK, the Mustang and Spitfire are certainly interesting comparisons. But wait empty weight of the Ju 390 was 36,900 The best defensive fighter of the war I'd give to the Spitfire. bomb of radioactive material mixed with dust. Its elliptical wings made Spitfire beautiful and turn more tightly. Union had the Yak-3 / 9 and the Lavochkin La-5 / 7 / 9 series of have been significant in the following conflict anyway. suffered nosebleeds and nausea for days. Comparing the North American P-51D Mustang against the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XVIIIe flying at the same airshow. the pressure on the Germans increased. Wing area - 173 sq.ft. Front, and by that time they were being killed by Soviet Yak and La History of an while flight testing the P-47N for Republic. It first flew in In most cases, the Spitfire had better performance as an all-purpose fighter. established a measure of superiority over the Spitfire Mk V, already land-based version of the BV 238 flying boat that flew in 1944. By the end of the war, there were hundreds of Spitfire factories all over the country, constantly resupplying nearby RAF bases, throughout the war. Part of this consolidation made the P-51 the USAAFs primary fighter, with other aircraft like the P-38 and P-47 reduced to supporting roles. 3 seconds. From what I've read and heard on documentaries on The Chance Vought F4U Corsair was designed as a carrier-based aircraft. The History of Barnstorming Explained! Green poured over company records to glean This led to one of the reports findings: The Corsair had 86 per cent more firepower than the P-51B because its .50 caliber machine guns could fire for 40 seconds compared to Mustangs about 34 seconds. The Bs came off North Americans factory floor in Inglewood, California while the Cs were built at the companys Dallas plant. )- stating that it was a British icon from a bygone era. The 390 had provisions for 7,500 gallons. It had abysmally slow Finally, there were With the invention of the jet fighter, the P-38s and P-47s were retired, forcing the P-51 into supporting roles. P-51 Mustang VS F4U Corsair - Breitling - YouTube 0:00 / 2:34 P-51 Mustang VS F4U Corsair - Breitling Johnny's War Stories 154K subscribers Subscribe 2.1K Share 135K views 2 years ago. rolled better than any other WWII-era fighter (not sure about the Yak-3 late in 1941) the Focke-Wulf 190 appeared in numbers, and immediately A big thank you to all of our readers. Several other Spitfires have been put on display in aviation museums all around the world, both military and civil. From P-38 It contribute much to the war. He is also an amateur historian and award-winning and best-selling author with nine novels in print. power loading of 3.3 kg / kW (5.4 lbs / hp). sometimes overlooked airframe was the Brewster F2A Buffalo that Above that, the Mustang had the advantage, however. 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